The $400 Phil and Ted’s Stroller – Dissecting The Purchase
Posted by The Happy Rock on April 28, 2008
Sticker shock. That is probably your first thought, I know it was mine when The Happy Rockette first told me about the stroller. A little more than 3 months later, we own one! See the picture below for a quick look or click here for an in depth look at PhilandTeds.com.
Here are the criteria I used to evaluate and review our Phil and Ted stroller purchase and why I think it was a great purchase:
- Pay Cash. The Rockette had been working every other Saturday to help out at her former job and decided she wanted that extra effort to go towards something. We had the money in two weekends or so. That month gave us some time to do some extra research and really get behind the purchase.
- Aligned With Our Values. Being in a small condo, going outside is a must. We love going the park and hiking the trails, walking the boardwalk, going to museums, etc. With the addition of Pebble Jr. two strollers just made everything much more of an ordeal. The purchase would help us cope with a small house, provide us with much more convenient time outside, and contribute to the positive welfare of our children.
- Get Good Value. Could we have gotten a $200 double stroller? Sure…so that what did we get for the extra $200 dollars.
- When we went to the store to check the stroller out in person, it was quite apparent that this stroller had years of research and design put into it compared to the other double stroller. It folded up smaller then our current one seater. Size is a big deal for double strollers. It provided multiple child configurations that accommodated our baby and a toddler all the way to two toddlers. The current setup has the Pebble Jr. laying down, and the Big Pebble perched on top. There was even enough room to change the Pebble Jr. which has come in quite handy. Handles are adjustable, covers and rain protectors are easy to use and store nicely, it is easy for The Rockette to push, and the list goes on. The value is in the design.
- Pretty much everyone who owns a Phil and Ted stroller raves about it. Not in an I drive a BMW or Mercedes kind of way, but in a “it’s made my life so much easier” way.
- The resale value on used strollers was not much less than brand new, usually $300 or more. This is an indicator of people’s willingness to pay and the quality of the product. It also helps justify the purchase to know that you can unload the stroller and get a decent portion of the purchase price back.
- Get A Good Price. We searched for about a month until with found a new sport one for $399 with free shipping from Pish Posh Baby. I even emailed to see if there were coupons available, but they didn’t respond until they included a coupon code for pishposhbaby.com with my order. You can get 5% with the code Save5 though, which readers say is still working
.- *Update – Pish Posh Baby updated their new price to $539, but they have the discontinued camo colors for Phil and Ted Sport for $449
- *Update – Pish Posh Baby updated their new price to $539, but they have the discontinued camo colors for Phil and Ted Sport for $449
So far we are very happy with our purchase, even though I still have a little sticker remorse from time to time when I realize the the stoller is almost worth the same amount as my car. What do you think? Am I crazy and just justifying a silly purchase?
Update[8/17/2008] – Here are a few answers to questions I received through email.
1. Which model did you get? – Inline Sport
2. Does it allow you to adapt your car seat to it for an infant? (If it does not, did you find this to be a problem?) – It does not adapt to the car seat out of the box, but there are car seat adapters out there – I think the stroller is way easier than the car seat. If you have a small infant that can’t sit up, it has the lay down position which works great. Phil and Ted Car Seat Adapters
3. Do you know where I can find a list of retailers where I can look at one in person?. – I think your best bet is here, although I know there is at least one local retailer that isn’t listed there. It was helpful to look in person to help combat sticker shock.
Update[7/21/2009] – Thanks to The Happy Rock reader Cristina for alerting us about a recall for almost all Phil and Ted strollers(2003 – 2008) for hinge problems. As a couple of commenter mentioned the stroller hinge is too sharp and can cut a person or rip the stroller material. View the details here: Phil and Ted Stroller Recall.
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79 Responses to “The $400 Phil and Ted’s Stroller – Dissecting The Purchase”
- Roman (1 comments.) on April 29th, 2008 1:54 am
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Ed (35 comments.) on
April 29th, 2008 5:38 pm
I like the stroller. The little guy in the back can’t pull the hair of the person in the front because he/she got to sit in the front.
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Diana (14 comments.) on
April 29th, 2008 11:10 pm
You have so many great consideration before deciding…That’s a good habbit which I am trying to do better.
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Rick Vaughn (4 comments.) on
April 29th, 2008 11:43 pm
I think its a great purchase but my man in the back needs to be little higher being that low has to be dangerous.
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Sue (39 comments.) on
April 30th, 2008 3:38 pm
I guess you are wishing you got this for pebble 1 since you can use it as a single stroller also.
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The Happy Rock (336 comments.) on
April 30th, 2008 4:09 pm
@Sue – Yes, if we could have had the forsight to buy a double stroller like this with the first child we would have saved probably $100 or more dollars. Looking back it probably would have been a tough purchase, since we didn’t have the knowledge and experience about its necessity until now.
@Rick – There is actually a little storage bin on the bottom that sits lower, so there is plenty of room.
@Ed – Our kids aren’t close enough to fight. I don’t think a 4 month will do much damage!
@Roman – It is great!
@Diana – Not being impetuous really helps give you the time to think through these things. The rest comes keeps getting better with experience.
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Jacob (2 comments.) on
May 1st, 2008 10:34 am
Rock, that’s an awfully nice stroller! This is the kind of thing where you either spend what’s needed upfront to get the quality product you want, or you try and save some bread by buying a cheaper inferior product upfront; but, end up paying even more for it later in terms of hassles, frustration and eventually replacement. Wise purchase!
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Ben @ Trees Full of Money (8 comments.) on
May 1st, 2008 10:43 am
Thanks for the review! My wife and I are getting ready to make a similar purchase with our second child expected in Sept!
Their are certainly a ton of options in this segment. Sometimes you get what you pay for and other times you don’t, I’m going to share your review with the wifey and see what she thinks!!
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Ed (35 comments.) on
May 1st, 2008 12:04 pm
On the contrary. A four month old with a hand full of hair can inflict considerable suffering. I’ve seen it happen…to me.
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Sue (39 comments.) on
May 1st, 2008 12:24 pm
I think that I have seen this stroller before. I didn’t even realize that there was a 2nd child in the stroller until the stroller came by me. Facing me I could not see the 2nd child. Hopefully Pebble Jr will still have a good view of the world.
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The Happy Rock (336 comments.) on
May 1st, 2008 12:55 pm
@Jacob – I think you are dead one! Thanks.
@Ben – Hope it helps. Feel free to as us any questions.
@Ed – I have a short haircut so there isn’t anything to pull. My wife might agree though.
@Sue – From some of the reviews I have seen the bottom seat has the ‘cool’ factor and people reported children ‘fighting’ over the bottom seat.
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Jerry (12 comments.) on
May 2nd, 2008 2:37 pm
Some things are worth the additional price, and from what I am reading this stroller is probably one of them! There are some more costly purchases that are ego- or vanity-driven, and others that lead to a better or safer lifestyle. In some ways it is good to scrimp and save, and in others it is worth getting a quality item because you have insurance of quality and durability. We will consider one of these strollers when we have our second baby!
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Spartan Saving (2 comments.) on
May 2nd, 2008 5:04 pm
Although it is a pretty stroller, it still seems such a lot of money just for a stroller which could have been bought for less. (not the same brand, but 4 wheels and a seat)I guess the resale value offsets the initial cost though.
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Four Pillars (2 comments.) on
May 4th, 2008 9:45 am
Looks good. I don’t think $400 is that bad for a double stroller – you seem to be buying it for the right reasons.
I just bought a nice double jogging stroller off Craig’s List which was a lot cheaper. We will still buy a normal double stroller (more carrying space in the bottom) but we’ll just get something cheap and used since it’s for just going to the grocery store and back.
Mike
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clappstar on
May 21st, 2008 11:34 pm
That is a picture I took of my kids. We bought the stroller for considerably more while in Belgium. It worked so well in Europe because a lot of spaces are smaller and more narrow – it helped us by fitting through shopping aisles and into tiny elevators. Additionally, we were looking for a double stroller that would fold small enough to fit in the back of our tiny European hatchback. This stroller folds to a small, compact size.
Besides the form factor – the stroller is sturdy! We went through 3 different strollers before we got this – folding double, a sit-and-stand, and a jogger. The jogger was also sturdy but a double jogger with BIG wheels is a space hog.
Anyway – one of our best kids’ equipment purchases by far. And because it is so sturdy – I aam sure it will have a great resale value when the kids grow out of it.
Totally worth it.
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The Happy Rock (336 comments.) on
May 22nd, 2008 6:51 am
@clapstar – This stroller does fold small and the multiple configurations really help you deal with whatever children setup you need at the time.
It is really sturdy, but I am still a little extra careful since it cost so much money. That will begin to fade over time though.
I am still very pleased with the purchase, just like you are. Thanks for commenting.
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Heidi Mermis-Cava on
June 2nd, 2008 10:06 pm
My husband and I purchased a Phil & Teds E3 double stroller in April 2007 when we had our second child. We absolutely love the stroller and have told everyone to buy one. BUT we recently noticed that the material was tearing and that the stitching was coming undone in the area above the front hinges where the stroller folds, and the stroller is only one year old. As I consider this a design flaw rather than anything we have done to hurt the stroller (it has to be folded). I returned it to the store where I purchased it and the Phil & Ted Rep told the owner that there was nothing they could do and to cover the hinges with duct tape and maybe that would protect the material more!!
I am shocked that the company would actually not do anything and then tell me to use duct tape to make their product work appropriately.
I love this stroller but am very disappointed with the company at the moment.
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The Happy Rock (336 comments.) on
June 3rd, 2008 10:00 pm
@Heidi – Thanks for the great info. I am a little disappointed to here about your customer service experience too. I would expect a lot more out of a company that designs such a great stroller. I would even try contacting them again and talking to someone up the chain to explain you treatment. They might be more willing to do something when you push a little bit.
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Abigail on
June 18th, 2008 2:45 am
I was so glad to read about this stroller. I saw a sport buggy at the Zoo with my children and the owner said he loved it, thought it was the best stroller. So, I’m very interested in the Vibe now that it has come out. It looks very nice and though expensive, I think it will be the last stroller I’ll have to buy. It will go down aisles when shopping and even to the beach over sand and my two children can ride with ease. I like that the Vibe has a bigger sunshade and a little bit bigger seat. These strollers, no matter the model, are really nice and I will buy one very soon. Thanks.
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Raul on
July 9th, 2008 10:33 am
Heidi,
Sorry to hear you had issues with yours. I made the mistake of buying mine of ebay from ramc261o6. Do NOT deal with them. I had a problem with the wheel brake and they would not help me at all.
They wouldn’t give me a phone number to contact them and basically they told me there was nothing they could do for me. I contacted the us company that sells them here (regal something) and they told me that the warranty was not valid if I bought it off of ebay since there are no authorized dealers on ebay. I thought I was stuck with a brand new $400 broken stroller. I finally got another retailer to help me and get the part for me. Very frustrating…but in the end the problem was solved and I love the stroller. never again ramc261o6 !!!!
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kathleen on
July 29th, 2008 6:29 pm
In response to Abigail’s comment, the Vibe looks pretty damn sexy I’ll admit, but after owning a BOB Revolution I am appalled at how difficult and stiff this thing is. We took the Vibe back and bought the less expensive Phil and Teds Sport. Certainly not as sexy but WAY easier to push. The saleswoman said that this had been a very consistent complaint about the Vibe and thought they had some kinks to work out, I only wish she had shared this insight before I bought the thing. Good luck.
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Courtney on
August 8th, 2008 11:16 pm
We have the phil and teds sport double. We have a two year old and a 3 month old. WE LOVE IT! We are very happy with this stroller. HOWEVER, we are now having a problem with the zipper on the front of the stroller. The bottom of the zipper keeps coming open. It has scratched my daughter to where she was afraid to get into the stroller for a month. I fixed that side. Now the other side has done the same and scratched my newborn. I feel like such a horrible mother since I didnt notice why he was crying! I to bought it on ebay and “warranty is void”. I do not think that buying it on Ebay has effected the manufactures issue.
I will try to fix it again and as was suggested to duct tape my $600 stroller to make sure my kids dont get hurt. Please check your strollers!! We do love it and will not do without! Thanks for you comments!
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The Happy Rock (336 comments.) on
August 9th, 2008 7:00 am
Thanks for sharing that information it is helpful to get all different reviews and experiences in one place. We haven’t had such a problem and I can’t even picture how the zipper would even be in a position to scratch our children on our stroller. I am wondering if some of the EBAY sales are refurbished or something, since it is the second problem that has been reported from an EBAY sale. We have only had ours 7 months and despite being pretty rough with it aren’t having any problems yet. Thanks again.
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Abigail 2 on
August 10th, 2008 6:36 pm
I just bought a ‘Vibe’ and it does fold down to a small size. I got the Vibe due to my kids being one and two, so they need the extra bit of room. I figure I can get three years use out of it, maybe even more since my kids are both petite. So far I like the Vibe, but I haven’t used it for very long. I think any of the Phil and Ted’s strollers will be good. I also saw parents at the zoo with one of these strollers who said they loved the stroller, so that led to me buying one too. Thanks.
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Judy on
August 22nd, 2008 11:12 pm
I have a sports double, I noticed that the back right wheel is now loose. It not locking into place and I am really scared to put my children in it. Has this happened to anyone else? How have you fixed it?
I love the stroller and hope this won’t change my mind
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The Happy Rock (336 comments.) on
August 23rd, 2008 12:44 am
@Judy – I haven’t seen anyone complaining about that problem. I might suggest taking to a local bike shop and see what they say. Might be a simple fix.
I did recently pop all three tires by over filling them, so ours has been out of commission for a few days.
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Anne on
September 6th, 2008 5:20 pm
LOVE IT!! but…I to could not figure out how my child got scratched I blamed our cat who is declawed
I found the zipper teeth had got bent back – this happenned on both sides of the front zipper.–i thought I was the only one! I also am having the same problem with wear and tear the seams are starting to tear apart and the fabric is wearing quicker than I would like for the age <1yr this is all in the front area where the child rests their feet. That being said We, yes my husband also who doesn’t normally like to push a stroller, Absolutely have fallen IN LOVE with this stroller! It is well worth the $$ and more.I have been using this stroller for everything! Walking, Jogging,Beach -lock the front wheel and plowing through the sand is a cinch!,shopping-finally a double you can actually shop with–clothing shop–easily maneuvers through the tight racks at Macy’s,etc.
It is a smooth ride, children love it& take long naps in it.Other things to consider:I have Orange and it has faded so much again it is <1yr old. I have used it pretty much everyday this summer (the short 3monhths of summer in WI)so it has been in the sun but I would expect a little less fading for the price. I have a Maclaren I used religiously prior that has not faded- 3 years old and it went to the beach with me also. Improvement areas are: sun shade doesn’t quite shade the child riding up front, 2nd, I have tall children and I am concerned that a few more inches and my 1 yr old will no longer fit in the jump seat as her head will hit the bar on the jump seat.I still got my money’s worth and still Highly recommend purchasing!Oh and customer service is great. I haven’t called about the items I mentioned but when I first purchased I needed a new sun shade as the one in the box was snagged they sent another no questions asked right away and there was no mess returning the defective one. A+++ for customer service still thinking about contacting them re the fading and other issues I hope they dont tell me to use duct tape
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Courtney on
September 11th, 2008 10:43 pm
I wanted to update on our zipper issue. I did call the manufacture. They stated they had a KNOWN problem with the zipper. They were not using that supplier from China anymore. They overnighted me a new seat. No questions asked. The did not even ask where I bought it! Great service!!
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The Happy Rock (336 comments.) on
September 11th, 2008 11:42 pm
@Anne – Thanks for the great comment and information.
@Courtney – That is great to here, I love companies that are willing to accept a mistake and try to make it right for people. I had a similar experience with Chicco strollers were they sent me a new stroller no questions asked.
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munchkin on
September 14th, 2008 9:37 pm
Hello everyone. I have had my eye on this stroller for a while and still can’t decide whether to buy it or not. I could really use some opinions. I nanny/babysit a lot and typically just have one child but occassionally will have 2 so this stroller seemed really practical because it can hold one or two children. I may also be nannying next year for a family with a 2 year old and an infant so I thought it would be good for that too. But it just seems like SO much money. Any ideas/suggestions? What about prices? The best I have found so far is about $450 w/the doubles seat. Please help! Thanks.
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Julie on
September 30th, 2008 1:05 am
thanks for the 5% promotion code on pish posh baby…still works! That is how I found your site…i googled ‘promotion code for pish posh baby’ and it brought me to you! I got a 2008, discontinued charcoal color sport double for 459…minus the discount…436. best deal i could find. thanks. can’t wait for it to come.
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Sue (39 comments.) on
September 30th, 2008 9:30 am
Did you ever imagine you would get some many comments regarding the stroller? Maybe you should have a consumer review type blog. Just a thought.
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Ben Dinsmore (8 comments.) on
October 4th, 2008 2:21 am
Well, my wife and I finally pulled the trigger on a duallie stroller now that daughter #2 is here! We ended up going for the Bob Revolution Duallie and have been very happy with our purchase.
It works well for us, and gives us better access to the second child who can become somewhat “isolated” by the Phil and Ted’s model.
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Babology (1 comments.) on
October 10th, 2008 1:47 am
Can’t go wrong with the Phil & Teds Sport stroller. The v2 is just awesome and the upcoming dash should definitely be a true success!
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Cheryl on
October 13th, 2008 11:32 pm
Great Information– wish I would have known about the 5% discount from PishPosh before my purchase–oh well I am pleased with the stroller and PishPosh as well. Overall this has been a fabulous stroller and even my husband likes it. One of the wheels arrived with a very bent rim and then the second wheel has a bent rim and so the tire has a bit of a “bubble” to it. We have been very careful to keep the tire at 32 PSI or less. I am curious if others have had this issue– the tire/tire tube is not broken it just bulges due to the bent rim. We’ve only had the stroller 3 weeks and havent needed to pack it away or anything so it seems strange. the gentleman at PishPosh sd he never heard of such a thing. It was taken care of quickly– Regal Lager has excellent customer service. Despite a crazy start with the wheels, WE LOVE our P&T Sport v2 and love how compact it is for 2 kids. Both kids like front and back seats so there is no issue there. The double rainfly is fantastic– a must have in Seattle. the stroller is a conversation piece, easy to manuver and the kids love it. Highly recommend this to any looking to buy a double.
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Jen at BabyBecause (1 comments.) on
October 19th, 2008 10:04 pm
Hi Cheryl,
I saw your post about your tires bulging. If your Phil & Teds Buggy arrived with a true bent rim you should contact your retailer and have them assist you with getting the stroller wheels replaced. If you have a bulge in the tire you might want to try to slowly let the air out of the tire and re-center the tire on the wheel and then re-inflate to 22psi….not 32 psi.
I know the tire on the Phil and Teds might say 32psi but it really should be inflated to 22psi. The new Phil and Teds Sport Buggies come with 22psi marked on the actual wheel.
As far as the Dash, we are anxiously awaiting the “re-launch” of the Dash Stroller. It is a GREAT buggy and we love the ability to engage the brake at the handle bar. Unfortunately, there were some issues with the initially released Dash strollers and they are off the market until they correct the issue.
If you have any questions about the tire pressure give us a call, we will be happy to help.
Jen
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Meghan on
October 22nd, 2008 3:06 pm
The save5 still works for 5% off at the pishposh website.
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Mike (1 comments.) on
October 24th, 2008 8:58 am
If we could have had the forsight to buy a double stroller like this with the first child we would have saved probably $100 or more dollars. Looking back it probably would have been a tough purchase, since we didn’t have the knowledge and experience about its necessity until now
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Meghan on
November 2nd, 2008 10:51 pm
I take that back, the save5 doesn’t work, even though it may appear to when you are checking out.
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Marie on
November 11th, 2008 10:09 pm
I used the 5% saving code today, and it worked! Thanks for all the information(and the 5% tip!) I’ve been thinking about this stroller for a really long time (about a year) and I finally made the plunge (and saved up my extra “spending money” to justify it:) Thanks again!
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Abigail 2 on
November 12th, 2008 4:38 am
Still enjoy my Vibe. It has been a great stroller and will be my last one to purchase. My kids do fight over the back seat and my daughter who usually wins the seat often falls asleep in it. I can handle it with ease even through clothing racks in stores. I’m not afraid to shop anymore! My double took up too much space and I had to wait outside the store while others went in. I am more free to go and do knowing this stroller will fit into places with ease. I find it very easy to use and really just love it. My kids love it too. I was afraid to spend so much for the stroller, but now feel it was totally worth the expense.
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Liz (1 comments.) on
November 22nd, 2008 2:03 pm
thanks for this post, we just picked up one used from ebay for $250 and we LOVE it. great design for a stroller!
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Heather on
December 21st, 2008 3:08 pm
I’ve been looking on-line for the P & T’s Sport with the Double for months now. My 2nd baby is due in 2 weeks, so I better take the plunge soon. The question I have is: the model sold on Pish Posh Baby & Tiny Ride are the 2008 model, I’m wondering if there is a 2009 model coming out soon with some advancements? I’d hate to buy the 2008 at the very end of the year and find out a month later that a better version is available.
Anyone know?
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The Happy Rock (336 comments.) on
December 22nd, 2008 12:33 am
Thanks for all the great comments I am glad to know that so many people are happy with their purchases. I know we still are. Thanks again for being willing to share your experiences, this is what makes the internet blogs/articles like this so useful!
Looks like the 5% coupon is still working for people too.
@Heather – I don’t know about a new version. But if you are that worried the best thing to do would be to contact Phil and Ted or Regal Lager by phone and see what they say. It is a lot of money, so a 5 minute phone call is probably worth it. The Happy Rock readers would be interested if you do find out.
Here is the Regal Lager contact info -> Regal Lager Contact Info
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Heather on
December 22nd, 2008 1:44 pm
I called Regal Lager and the 2008 is the latest version of the Sport Buggy. Also, the 2008 is the same as the V2 or Version 2 that some online retailers are labeling this buggy. There are no plans at this time for a 2009 version, so 2008 is the latest model.
I found a 5% coupon that worked a few minutes ago on Tiny Ride.com (ASAVE5). The double buggy came to $512.95. I was sad to find out that they were offering a $100 off a purchase of $500 or more last week. That stung a bit!
A question I have for an owner of the double buggy sport is- how much of a pain is it to fold the stroller into the trunk? I thought it folded with the extra seat on it, but found out only the Vibe does that.
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The Happy Rock (336 comments.) on
December 23rd, 2008 11:44 am
@Heather – Thanks for all the detective work, all past and future readers appreciate it!
Shame you missed the $100 off, just make sure you are able to leave it behind before you buy. You don’t want to buy a great product and have bad feeling hanging over your head.
As for the folding, you do have to take the seat off. It does make it a little more of a pain for putting it away and in the trunk where you have an extra seat floating around that doesn’t have a nice home. Actually folding it once the seat is off is a breeze though.
It is on of those minor drawbacks you get used to because the overall benefit is worth the effort.
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Heather on
December 24th, 2008 12:09 am
Thank you for the info on the folding. Doesn’t sound bad, and I’m used to taking apart my current Bugaboo stroller.
I read somewhere that the Bob Handlebar drink holder works well with the P&T Sport. Anyone have any experience or have other recommendations of an accessory for drinks, keys, etc?
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malcolm coles (2 comments.) on
January 5th, 2009 7:49 pm
I needed a pushchair that’s great for tall people. The bugaboo was perfect, then someone stole it of all things! Anyway, now have a P&T as we have two babies – but it’s really hard not to bash the bottom child. I wish they’d make one with a more adjustable handle …
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The Happy Rock (336 comments.) on
January 5th, 2009 11:52 pm
@malcom – I am 6 foot 2 and I have never had a single issue with any handle setting or kicking the rear seat and we will go for long hikes too. I can’t speak for how it works for those taller than that.
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malcolm coles (2 comments.) on
January 6th, 2009 4:35 am
I’m 6’4″, and am always kicking the axels etc. It gave me really bad back ache …
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Ashley on
January 13th, 2009 1:54 pm
Hi! I was wondering if anyone knows a new code to save some $$ on the P&T? I am considering the 4in1 Pink Camo from the Baby Bungalow. They offer free shipping and the doubles seat for $469. I would love another color option, but that is the best price I’ve seen. Has anyone done business with this site? If so how is customer service? Thanks!
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The Happy Rock (336 comments.) on
January 13th, 2009 2:17 pm
@Ashley – Looks like BabyBungalow is not a well know site and the few ratings they do have are not good at all. Baby Bungalow Reseller Ratings, review on Epinions seemed to be a little better
I will say that Pish Posh Baby has the pink camo or gray with doubles for $450 and the 5% off coupon is still reported as working. Blue camo is another $20.
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Holly on
February 15th, 2009 3:36 pm
I was wondering if anyone has ever used any of the Phil & Ted’s in snow and ice? We’re contemplating purchasing this for our forthcoming second child to accomodate our 2 yr. old and the new one but wanted to see if anyone has tried this. Thanks – great feedback from everyone helping make our decision more informed!
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The Happy Rock (336 comments.) on
February 15th, 2009 11:08 pm
@Holly – I have taken the boys on snow and some ice and it works, but I am not sure that it has anything special to offer for snow and ice over other strollers. The tires are regular tires.
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Erin on
March 13th, 2009 3:35 pm
I’m going to purchase a Phil and Ted’s stroller, but am unsure which model is best. Is it worth the extra money to get the Vibe, for folding, the Dash with the plastic footwell, or is the Sport good enough?
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Abigail in O.C. on
March 15th, 2009 7:14 pm
I bought a Vibe right after it came out and I love it. It has truly made my life much easier in that I can go anywhere now with my kids in a stroller. I never could do that before in my side by side. My Nanny uses the side by side for the park, etc. I keep the VIBE in my car all the time. I got the VIBE due to the seats being a bit bigger and because it had a few new items on it. I love the hang-bag for drinks, etc. It works well with the VIBE. I think it was expensive, but it has been worth the money since it has made taking my kids out so much easier. My kids are 3 and 4, but petite, so I can use the VIBE for much longer. My kids really like it and my 4 year old loves sitting in the back seat. I could have gotten a Joovy Caboose, but both of my kids sometimes fall asleep and the Joovy doesn’t allow the older child to lay down. For me, the Vibe has worked out perfectly. I use the hang bag accessory and then take a small toddler bag too. I put my wallet in the toddler bag. I can go anywhere and the VIbe folds easily, so I highly recommend it. I just wish I’d bought one first! I took my Vibe to my bike shop to have all the tires sealed. I learned about this online and it wasn’t expensive, so I don’t have to ever worry about the tires going flat. This really is a great stroller.
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Jesse on
March 20th, 2009 2:18 pm
Hello all,
I am a mother of two and I just want everyone to be aware and NOT buy anything from Pish Posh Baby. They have this stroller for very cheap but there is a reason. I just got off the phone with a man that works there and he was so rude and offensive, he condescendingly tried to answer my questions which he didn’t even give me real answers.
I was on hold for around 30 mins after I finally got a hold of someone, I have been trying to call for weeks and got an answering machine and no call back. The guy kept talking to other people while he was on the phone with me and telling me to hold on when I am trying to purchase this phil and teds stroller. Ridiculous.
The entire phone call he was practically yelling, which I still do not understand why. These people at pishposhbaby.com are extremely obnoxious and he eventually told me to “look up your own answers” When I simply asked about whether or not I could jog with the stroller.
I will order the stroller and all of my other baby products somewhere else and if you want to be saved the hassle and not deal with rude people, you should do the same.
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The Happy Rock (336 comments.) on
March 21st, 2009 12:02 pm
@Jesse,
Thanks for sharing your experience, its helpful to have a bunch of different perspectives. I will say that Pish Posh has more than a few happy customers that have read this thread and bought over there. Most of them just used the coupon and ordered though I think.
With that said I haven’t had much luck with talking to them in person either. I haven’t had any luck trying to get them to start an affiliate referral program, actually I haven’t even got them to respond to an email either.
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Heather on
March 22nd, 2009 8:27 pm
I was surprised at Jesse’s negative experience at pishposhbaby.com. I purchased the phil and teds sport stroller with a coupon and had a great buyer experience from beg. to end. I also referred a friend who was very happy too. I even received a free mommy hook as a courtesy gift. I used the ask sarah link several times and recieved a response within the hour!!! I would definatley reccommend pishposhbaby to anyone out there.
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Deborah on
March 31st, 2009 10:26 pm
I just recently purchased the sport with my 2nd baby and love it! I do wish I had the forsight with my first child to have purchased the Phil and Ted (and people I knew had told me to do it, but, you just never know when or if #2 will happen). I did buy a Maclaren that I have worn down, so, I don’t feel that we have too many strollers, and the P&T is heavier (we live in a city and don’t have a car) so, it only makes sense now since it doesn’t take up an entire sidewalk! I ordered through Pishposh and although I waited on hold for a bit, they were terrific and I had the stroller fast and easy! I would definitely order through them again!
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Katja Raak on
May 4th, 2009 4:36 pm
We bought the Phil and Teds Vibe a year ago. We are truly happy with the design of the stroller and being able to maneuver our 2 kids around New York easily. But there is one big disadvantage to it and I never thought of it when buying. The tires are specifically made for Phil and Teds and very hard to get. We already had to replace 2 tires as well as 3 tubes. I never had these problems with another stroller that had inflatable tires. And a replacement tire for the Vibe rear wheel is not even available but you have to buy the whole wheel for $35 dollars (not including tax nor shipping). It’s just such a hassle all the time and I wish we would have never bought that stroller.
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The Happy Rock (336 comments.) on
May 5th, 2009 11:27 pm
@katja – Your wheel problems surprise me. I got a flat with our stroller(P & T Sport) and just walked into a bike shop with the tire and they had an innertube that was the right size. I fixed it myself for a total cost of $6 I think.
Hopefully, I never have to replace a tire. What made your tires go anyway, I would think tires should last the life of the stroller with normal wear and tear?
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Abigail on
May 6th, 2009 1:04 pm
Still really like my Vibe. Find it easy to use. Folds easily and goes in and out of the car easily. With two kids I go light since the shopping bag has feet in it. I use a Mommy hook on the handle for a package or two if I’m shopping. I use the hang bag zippered part for my cell phone, cash, etc. I have also loaded this stroller down heavily and still had no problems. I just am careful to have my back passenger get out first. The kids hop in and out of this stroller as they see things while out and always say, “Mom take the stroller”. If they do get tired they can fall asleep in this stroller which is great. Won’t buy another stroller, this one is the last one for me. I did take precaution and had the tires all sealed at my local bike shop, so I will not have any flats. Just wanted to not have to worry about that. It’s a stroller that I can go and do with which has meant a lot to me as a Mom. With my double I had to wait outside places because it would not fit. Thanks.
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Kelly on
June 8th, 2009 3:08 pm
We were sold on the Phil and Teds because there is nothing like it- a single/double stroller- perfect for our family. We have a two year old who loves to walk (but still needs a stroller at times) and a newborn. Worth the price tag when you consider the convenience. I wanted to share a tip I found- USA Baby sells the sport for pretty inexpensive (comparatively) AND will honor Bed Bath and Beyond coupons since they introduced Buy Buy Baby and sell P & T online! It ends up being right around $400 for a sport with a doubles kit!
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Elizabeth on
June 23rd, 2009 9:09 am
Kelly- which USA baby was this?
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Ben on
June 25th, 2009 4:35 pm
I am having tons of problems with the tires as well…the rims on the stroller are not overly deep and the sidewalls of the tires come off the rim (despite being inflated to 22lbs.) The rims are not crooked or bent as in an above post. I have taken the tires to several bike shops and gone through new tubes and new tires.
Also, Regal Lager no longer servicing these strollers…now Phil and Ted have their own service line (800-839-4985.) Called today to try to get the issue resolved and had to leave a message for call back.
If we could only get the tire issue fixed we would be thrilled as we love the stroller flexibility. Sadly, in addition to the cost of the stroller, we have also put a bunch of money into rain covers, UV covers, cupholder, infant car seat adapter. Currently our stroller is not usable until the tire issue is resolved.
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Heather on
June 30th, 2009 6:29 pm
I bought the P & T Sport. Does anyone know how old the baby needs to be (or how big) to put them in the second seat rather than the bassinet?
Also, I have a lot of trouble trying to fold the stroller. The “survival guide” manual isn’t very visual, any recommendations of where I can see how to fold down the stroller?
Thanks everyone!
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Cristina on
July 21st, 2009 3:38 pm
I just saw there was a repair recall on the 2003-2008 models of their strollers. You can find all the details here: Phil and Ted Stroller Recall
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Miriam on
July 31st, 2009 2:48 pm
I think the baby needs to be 3 months, christina, or able to sit in that upright of a position. I would put on a headrest too unless your baby has good head control. Although it says to put the heavier child in front, I put mine in back – he likes to get in and out and I don’t like the baby in the back when no one is in the front. This stroller is totally worth it…
Does anyone know what size tubes/tires are needed? I need to replace a tube. Also, anyone know how to take off the seat for washing?
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Allyson on
August 2nd, 2009 12:43 pm
Does anyone know where to buy a sunshade for the back double kit? My older child would never tolerate the double sunshade going over her in the front so I want just a top shade for the double kit
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Sara (1 comments.) on
August 24th, 2009 6:23 am
I wonder if this stroller works for twins, or “only” if one kid is a bit older and able to sit up.
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KT&LE on
April 14th, 2010 10:40 pm
Hi, so 2 years later hopefully someone still is checking this thread.
We just had our first child and like many reviewers, I decided to invest in a double now so I we dont have to buy two strollers later!That being said, I’ve decided to get the new 2010 Sport and was planning on getting it on eBay. However, I’m a little concerned considering all the bad reviews. Has anyone purchased one and had a good experience on eBay?
If not, does anyone have a new promotion/discount code for any credible website? These boogers are pricey so any savings helps!
A note to all those who might read this, I found a great sun shade for the doubleseat by Protect-a-Bub. Check it out on Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/Protect-Bub-Tandem-Back-Sunshade/dp/B0019C4NYC/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=baby-products&qid=1271299144&sr=8-4 -
Erin on
April 15th, 2010 2:42 pm
My advice would be DO NOT buy on ebay. You will NOT have a warranty. Believe me I learned the hard way after I bought a Phil Teds Dash stroller off of Ebay and it was totally messed up with the folding system.
Phil and Teds wouldn’t honor the warranty. I didn’t know this but NONE of the Phil and Teds sellers on ebay are authorized sellers and Phil and Teds said they don’t know who these people are and if they find out they will shut them down.
The seller I bought from wouldnt refund the money and wouldn’t give me a phone number to call. Very dishonest.
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Linda on
June 22nd, 2010 7:03 pm
Thanks Erin for the comment. I was about to purchase a dash online from ebay. The seller has a great history rating but now this puts a question in the back of my head. Has anyone else purchased on ebay?
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Kristi on
August 9th, 2010 12:49 pm
Buying from these people on ebay is like buying stolen property. These people are dishonest. They are stealing from the marketing/consumer education efforts of legitimate retailers and manufacturers.
Why do you think they don’t post their phone numbers or contact info? Because if they did they would be sued/cut-off from the manufacturers.
So it doesn’t really matter if they have a “good history” rating or not. I’m sure you can find some thieves that would give you the products they said they were going to give you and that have a “good history” rating from people that buy stolen goods. But does that make it right?
Do you want your baby riding around in a stroller that was purchased from someone “gaming” the system and acting dishonestly? Are those the qualities you want to raise your baby with?
If you are going to buy off of Ebay (god only knows why) then find an AUTHORIZED dealer that posts their contact information. Otherwise you are just contributing to unethical behavior.
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Its a great purchase a close family friend got one and he loves it.