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		<title>By: maría</title>
		<link>http://www.thehappyrock.com/2009/09/08/capitalism-is-not-the-answer/comment-page-1/#comment-12546</link>
		<dc:creator>maría</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 12:30:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not have much simpathy for bleeding hearts, but I think that when i doubt, we should always err in the side of freedom. The reasons why communism doesnt´t work, is that the individual not only sacrifices him/herself to the commuity, but loose freedom. When the expected increases in security don´t come the individual has lost freedom, privacy and ironically sometimes even security itself for nothing- that´s tirany. Contrary to what most people think, it is actually easy to give up your freedom for nothing.... THE REASON THIS SYSTEM IS MORE LIKELY to be corrupted is that individuals would not only have to be perfectly selfless, but completely respectful of human and individual rights as well, and that often just doesn´t happen!
There are other two factors that haven´t been analyzed, for instance, but for fear of being called blasphemous, we rarely do; your mother should also consider if she´s really helping, because many that want to help actually compound the problem, the &quot;I know best&quot; is exactly why so many of these systems, and even well-meaning people  fail. I lived in a communist country, (I had a lot of trouble going away and it was hell... 
 There is a difference between the state helping those in need, and letting it regulate our lives. Claiming to know what is best for everyone is a slippery slope, because one falls into an &quot;I am omnipotent&quot; trap as well, and think you can force your ideas unto your brothers and sisters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not have much simpathy for bleeding hearts, but I think that when i doubt, we should always err in the side of freedom. The reasons why communism doesnt´t work, is that the individual not only sacrifices him/herself to the commuity, but loose freedom. When the expected increases in security don´t come the individual has lost freedom, privacy and ironically sometimes even security itself for nothing- that´s tirany. Contrary to what most people think, it is actually easy to give up your freedom for nothing&#8230;. THE REASON THIS SYSTEM IS MORE LIKELY to be corrupted is that individuals would not only have to be perfectly selfless, but completely respectful of human and individual rights as well, and that often just doesn´t happen!<br />
There are other two factors that haven´t been analyzed, for instance, but for fear of being called blasphemous, we rarely do; your mother should also consider if she´s really helping, because many that want to help actually compound the problem, the &#8220;I know best&#8221; is exactly why so many of these systems, and even well-meaning people  fail. I lived in a communist country, (I had a lot of trouble going away and it was hell&#8230;<br />
 There is a difference between the state helping those in need, and letting it regulate our lives. Claiming to know what is best for everyone is a slippery slope, because one falls into an &#8220;I am omnipotent&#8221; trap as well, and think you can force your ideas unto your brothers and sisters.</p>
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		<title>By: Gaston and Marie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gaston and Marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2009 03:24:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The beauty of the free market system is that the market tells a person how valuable a service or product is to the community as a whole.

The choice a person has is to look at what society is willing to pay for a service or product and decide whether he or she wishes to participate at that level of income.

In the case of someone who decides he or she wishes to go to Zambia or anywhere else to &quot;help,&quot; the free market will tell that person IN ADVANCE what that work is worth TO THE FREE MARKET. Generally speaking unless an individual is privately wealthy or is sponsored by government, simply adding an ADDITIONAL mouth to feed in a poor area is worth absolutely nothing. I am not speaking of the intention here. I am speaking of the impartial evaluation of the Free Market.

To simply make a decision to go to New Orleans and add yet another mouth to feed, and bed to provide, and all the other services a living being requires isn&#039;t worth very much, unless a skill that is needed is provided. For example, a medical doctor volunteering to work pro bono who has a needed skill is a wonderful thing. However, not so if that person decides that he or she will require someone else to support him or her while there. 

Every one of us is a resource devourer. We need the world to support us. In turn, the free market tells us where it needs help. If we decide to do something that the free market tells us is worth zero, that, of course, is our choice. However, if then the person lives in poverty having to apply for welfare payments, that too is a choice.

The same is true with education. The free market tells the population that it needs certain skills. If a student spends his or her time sassing the teachers, and generally being a delinquent, has two children by the age of 18, and then turns around and tells us that the Free Market has failed him or her, that is laughable.

Same with the lady you are describing here. Her INTENTION has nothing to do with the free market.

If she chooses to do something that the free market tells her isn&#039;t worth anything, that&#039;s exactly what she will be paid for doing it.

She can work as hard as she wishes in the slums of Africa, but if she is providing another mouth to feed and needs housing and medical care, etc, she is becoming part of the problem, not part of the solution, regardless of her intention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The beauty of the free market system is that the market tells a person how valuable a service or product is to the community as a whole.</p>
<p>The choice a person has is to look at what society is willing to pay for a service or product and decide whether he or she wishes to participate at that level of income.</p>
<p>In the case of someone who decides he or she wishes to go to Zambia or anywhere else to &#8220;help,&#8221; the free market will tell that person IN ADVANCE what that work is worth TO THE FREE MARKET. Generally speaking unless an individual is privately wealthy or is sponsored by government, simply adding an ADDITIONAL mouth to feed in a poor area is worth absolutely nothing. I am not speaking of the intention here. I am speaking of the impartial evaluation of the Free Market.</p>
<p>To simply make a decision to go to New Orleans and add yet another mouth to feed, and bed to provide, and all the other services a living being requires isn&#8217;t worth very much, unless a skill that is needed is provided. For example, a medical doctor volunteering to work pro bono who has a needed skill is a wonderful thing. However, not so if that person decides that he or she will require someone else to support him or her while there. </p>
<p>Every one of us is a resource devourer. We need the world to support us. In turn, the free market tells us where it needs help. If we decide to do something that the free market tells us is worth zero, that, of course, is our choice. However, if then the person lives in poverty having to apply for welfare payments, that too is a choice.</p>
<p>The same is true with education. The free market tells the population that it needs certain skills. If a student spends his or her time sassing the teachers, and generally being a delinquent, has two children by the age of 18, and then turns around and tells us that the Free Market has failed him or her, that is laughable.</p>
<p>Same with the lady you are describing here. Her INTENTION has nothing to do with the free market.</p>
<p>If she chooses to do something that the free market tells her isn&#8217;t worth anything, that&#8217;s exactly what she will be paid for doing it.</p>
<p>She can work as hard as she wishes in the slums of Africa, but if she is providing another mouth to feed and needs housing and medical care, etc, she is becoming part of the problem, not part of the solution, regardless of her intention.</p>
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		<title>By: Credit Card Chaser</title>
		<link>http://www.thehappyrock.com/2009/09/08/capitalism-is-not-the-answer/comment-page-1/#comment-11326</link>
		<dc:creator>Credit Card Chaser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 04:10:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Capitalism + non-profit/religious/charity initiatives is always the answer. 

In the first example, the lady has the freedom (thanks to capitalism) to choose to give of her time and money to help others and if she chooses to then she has many opportunities to align herself with other great non-profit/religious/charity organizations in the US that can support her.

In the second example, your father in law has to freedom (thanks to capitalism) to pursue a lifestyle that he finds rewarding in ways that are not just financial but physical, emotional, etc. (hopefully or else maybe he made the wrong choice). If he decides that he wants to be rewarded in more of a financial sense then he has the freedom (thanks to capitalism) to decide to pursue a new career. 

Contrast both of those scenarios with a communist type of system that regardless of how benevolent you may think the people in control are - then guess what? - the bottom line is that the lady or your father in law does not have the personal freedom to choose for themselves and make for themselves their own destiny - rather under a communist like system it is someone else deciding who should do what or in a socialist like system who should be rewarded for your hard work.

I will choose capitalism/freedom every time and in cases where there is a shortcoming then that is where non-profit/religious/charity initiatives can do what they do best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Capitalism + non-profit/religious/charity initiatives is always the answer. </p>
<p>In the first example, the lady has the freedom (thanks to capitalism) to choose to give of her time and money to help others and if she chooses to then she has many opportunities to align herself with other great non-profit/religious/charity organizations in the US that can support her.</p>
<p>In the second example, your father in law has to freedom (thanks to capitalism) to pursue a lifestyle that he finds rewarding in ways that are not just financial but physical, emotional, etc. (hopefully or else maybe he made the wrong choice). If he decides that he wants to be rewarded in more of a financial sense then he has the freedom (thanks to capitalism) to decide to pursue a new career. </p>
<p>Contrast both of those scenarios with a communist type of system that regardless of how benevolent you may think the people in control are &#8211; then guess what? &#8211; the bottom line is that the lady or your father in law does not have the personal freedom to choose for themselves and make for themselves their own destiny &#8211; rather under a communist like system it is someone else deciding who should do what or in a socialist like system who should be rewarded for your hard work.</p>
<p>I will choose capitalism/freedom every time and in cases where there is a shortcoming then that is where non-profit/religious/charity initiatives can do what they do best.</p>
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		<title>By: ChrisCD</title>
		<link>http://www.thehappyrock.com/2009/09/08/capitalism-is-not-the-answer/comment-page-1/#comment-11296</link>
		<dc:creator>ChrisCD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 17:52:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem isn’t the system it is the people. Capitalism does offer the greatest rewards, but it should be intertwined with compassion. The problem is far too many driven people aren’t inheritantly compassionate. So sadly there must be some sort of regulations. As greed has taken hold even more, regulation increases. Regulation costs money. Money comes from taxes. If only people would see the cycle and voluntarily change what they value.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem isn’t the system it is the people. Capitalism does offer the greatest rewards, but it should be intertwined with compassion. The problem is far too many driven people aren’t inheritantly compassionate. So sadly there must be some sort of regulations. As greed has taken hold even more, regulation increases. Regulation costs money. Money comes from taxes. If only people would see the cycle and voluntarily change what they value.</p>
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		<title>By: Carry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 13:56:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed, capitalism is not a perfect economic system, but is the best we have so far. Some may say that capitalism stands behind the economic crisis, but I say that capitalism is just a tool and the outcome depends on the persons that are using it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed, capitalism is not a perfect economic system, but is the best we have so far. Some may say that capitalism stands behind the economic crisis, but I say that capitalism is just a tool and the outcome depends on the persons that are using it.</p>
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		<title>By: Joey</title>
		<link>http://www.thehappyrock.com/2009/09/08/capitalism-is-not-the-answer/comment-page-1/#comment-11256</link>
		<dc:creator>Joey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 20:12:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like how people think &quot;capitalism&quot; turned its back on people.  Capitalism is not a person, company, government, or anything.  It is freedom from oppression, that is all.  I recently was discussing with a leftist what freedom really is, and he was trying to quote FDR (of all people) about his freedom from want.  Thing is, that&#039;s slavery.  If someone promises to give me food, shelter and a purpose in exchange for giving up certain freedoms, that is slavery.  It&#039;s exactly what slavery in this nation was.  It was wrong then and it is wrong now.

It is nice when someone makes a decision to give up their own personal gain to help others, but that&#039;s why those people are to be praised.  They SACRIFICE.  If people could go help the poor, give things away, or offer clothing or shelter to others without giving up any part of their lifestyle, it wouldn&#039;t really take that big a person to do it, would it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like how people think &#8220;capitalism&#8221; turned its back on people.  Capitalism is not a person, company, government, or anything.  It is freedom from oppression, that is all.  I recently was discussing with a leftist what freedom really is, and he was trying to quote FDR (of all people) about his freedom from want.  Thing is, that&#8217;s slavery.  If someone promises to give me food, shelter and a purpose in exchange for giving up certain freedoms, that is slavery.  It&#8217;s exactly what slavery in this nation was.  It was wrong then and it is wrong now.</p>
<p>It is nice when someone makes a decision to give up their own personal gain to help others, but that&#8217;s why those people are to be praised.  They SACRIFICE.  If people could go help the poor, give things away, or offer clothing or shelter to others without giving up any part of their lifestyle, it wouldn&#8217;t really take that big a person to do it, would it?</p>
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		<title>By: Londo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Londo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 19:20:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whether capitalism is a perfect system or not boils down to your basic belief system.  If you belief that life produces winners and losers, and life is about survival of the fit, then you would be fine with capitalism&#039;s imperfections.  I believe that people organized in order form a social contract and ensure that a certain set of basic needs would be met.

Capitalism allows for the greatest amount of wealth to be created.  However, since we are not a society that utilizes slave labor, although in some instances we are close, capitalism must fit within a larger context.  Thus, the fact that we are the richest nation but do not have universal healthcare makes people angry.  

Capitalism should reward people like you father-in-law and mother.  However, when the goal is solely making money (i.e. financial instruments) and not producing things that people need, the balance becomes skewed.  Value and values become warped.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whether capitalism is a perfect system or not boils down to your basic belief system.  If you belief that life produces winners and losers, and life is about survival of the fit, then you would be fine with capitalism&#8217;s imperfections.  I believe that people organized in order form a social contract and ensure that a certain set of basic needs would be met.</p>
<p>Capitalism allows for the greatest amount of wealth to be created.  However, since we are not a society that utilizes slave labor, although in some instances we are close, capitalism must fit within a larger context.  Thus, the fact that we are the richest nation but do not have universal healthcare makes people angry.  </p>
<p>Capitalism should reward people like you father-in-law and mother.  However, when the goal is solely making money (i.e. financial instruments) and not producing things that people need, the balance becomes skewed.  Value and values become warped.</p>
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		<title>By: Haggel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Haggel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 14:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Jonathan- would you want the government to tax or steal over 50 percent of your hard earned salary? if no then you are a pure capitalist, if yes then you are a commy. The U.S is not a pure capitalist country that&#039;s why we are having this credit crunch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Jonathan- would you want the government to tax or steal over 50 percent of your hard earned salary? if no then you are a pure capitalist, if yes then you are a commy. The U.S is not a pure capitalist country that&#8217;s why we are having this credit crunch.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan@Friends&#38;Money</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan@Friends&#38;Money</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 13:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not a socialist and do not subscribe to socialism in the way that communism did, however i also feel that the credit crunch and subsequent recession has shown us that Capitalism has to be propely regulated or it has the power to be just as destructive as socialism. I think that a system that is able to be primarily based upon capitalism but with aspects of socialism is the ideal. That&#039;s why i really can&#039;t get my head around why there is so much opposition for a limited form of state run health system in the US. Here in the UK (a capaitalist society) the NHS has served us well for over 60 years and provides free treatment to all (although we do pay for it in our tax contribution). Does it means that we are dirty rotten communists? No way</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not a socialist and do not subscribe to socialism in the way that communism did, however i also feel that the credit crunch and subsequent recession has shown us that Capitalism has to be propely regulated or it has the power to be just as destructive as socialism. I think that a system that is able to be primarily based upon capitalism but with aspects of socialism is the ideal. That&#8217;s why i really can&#8217;t get my head around why there is so much opposition for a limited form of state run health system in the US. Here in the UK (a capaitalist society) the NHS has served us well for over 60 years and provides free treatment to all (although we do pay for it in our tax contribution). Does it means that we are dirty rotten communists? No way</p>
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		<title>By: MoneyEnergy</title>
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		<dc:creator>MoneyEnergy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 20:25:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think the terms &quot;capitalism&quot;, &quot;socialism&quot; etc. have clear meaning anymore due to how strongly they have been taken up ideologically and as heuristics for many people (judging by comments I read on various sites). I think it&#039;s better to focus on specific points and issues.  The label socialism is a joke and obscures more than it clarifies.

I&#039;m glad you wrote the article, because it rises above the usual dogma and tries to question frameworks.  Whenever there&#039;s a simple back-and-forth type argument it often means something&#039;s getting missed and one needs to rise above it by being able to see how the two extremes can actually play into and support each other. I think this is going to be required more and more over the next 10-20 years for those who hope to prosper and function well in the world as it develops.  The past does not equal the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think the terms &#8220;capitalism&#8221;, &#8220;socialism&#8221; etc. have clear meaning anymore due to how strongly they have been taken up ideologically and as heuristics for many people (judging by comments I read on various sites). I think it&#8217;s better to focus on specific points and issues.  The label socialism is a joke and obscures more than it clarifies.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad you wrote the article, because it rises above the usual dogma and tries to question frameworks.  Whenever there&#8217;s a simple back-and-forth type argument it often means something&#8217;s getting missed and one needs to rise above it by being able to see how the two extremes can actually play into and support each other. I think this is going to be required more and more over the next 10-20 years for those who hope to prosper and function well in the world as it develops.  The past does not equal the future.</p>
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