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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 18:20:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree. I gave up on contracts about a year ago now and went with tracfone prepaid for this very reason. I don&#039;t need more debt for a phone, I have plenty already. At times I miss a contract phone but overall not much has changed and I&#039;m saving money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree. I gave up on contracts about a year ago now and went with tracfone prepaid for this very reason. I don&#8217;t need more debt for a phone, I have plenty already. At times I miss a contract phone but overall not much has changed and I&#8217;m saving money.</p>
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		<title>By: -&#62; Best of Money Carnival #6 &#124; Bible Money Matters</title>
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		<dc:creator>-&#62; Best of Money Carnival #6 &#124; Bible Money Matters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 12:28:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jonathan@Friends&#38;Money</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan@Friends&#38;Money</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 20:58:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>really good analysis of this aspect of everyday life. Anything that means you don&#039;t pay for it up front is debt. I&#039;m not saying that all debt is wrong, i don&#039;t subscribe to that theory, but nor should it become normal. As soon as it becomes normal then that&#039;s when the steady slide into debt can occur. I would NEVER pay for a mobile contract that ties me in for a specific period i.e 12/18 months because i don&#039;t know what state my finances will be in by then. I prefer pay as you go</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>really good analysis of this aspect of everyday life. Anything that means you don&#8217;t pay for it up front is debt. I&#8217;m not saying that all debt is wrong, i don&#8217;t subscribe to that theory, but nor should it become normal. As soon as it becomes normal then that&#8217;s when the steady slide into debt can occur. I would NEVER pay for a mobile contract that ties me in for a specific period i.e 12/18 months because i don&#8217;t know what state my finances will be in by then. I prefer pay as you go</p>
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		<title>By: mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 22:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got an  iPhone 3G for the primary reasons of Internet in my pocket and a do-everything device.</description>
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		<title>By: Carnival Of Top PF Posts #8 - Watermelon Lemonade Edition! &#124; Debt Free Adventure!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carnival Of Top PF Posts #8 - Watermelon Lemonade Edition! &#124; Debt Free Adventure!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 09:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: RickJames</title>
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		<dc:creator>RickJames</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 21:50:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@TheHappyRock, I agree wholly with your take on this. Cell phone contracts are debt, packaged as something else. I&#039;m all for prepaid plans and if that means I can&#039;t have the latest and greatest smartphone, so be it. 

The gap between contracts and prepaid is smaller than most people think and in some cases does not exist anymore. I see prepaid plans nowadays that are competitive or even beat contract on price-per-minute evaluation. Recently we saw a few offers on $50 unlimited plans - all from prepaid providers. 

The prepaid plan I currently use is called StraightTalk from Tracfone and gives me 1000 minutes, 1000 texts and 30mb of data for $30. Free 411 calls and all the usual benefits of Tracfone apply, of course. Now you have to agree that that is not a lightweight package but it is cheaper than most equivalent contracts out there. Without any hidden charges and all the usual bill frustrations or the contract. 

For me there is just no reason to sign a two-year contract if I can get what I need without selling my cell-soul.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@TheHappyRock, I agree wholly with your take on this. Cell phone contracts are debt, packaged as something else. I&#8217;m all for prepaid plans and if that means I can&#8217;t have the latest and greatest smartphone, so be it. </p>
<p>The gap between contracts and prepaid is smaller than most people think and in some cases does not exist anymore. I see prepaid plans nowadays that are competitive or even beat contract on price-per-minute evaluation. Recently we saw a few offers on $50 unlimited plans &#8211; all from prepaid providers. </p>
<p>The prepaid plan I currently use is called StraightTalk from Tracfone and gives me 1000 minutes, 1000 texts and 30mb of data for $30. Free 411 calls and all the usual benefits of Tracfone apply, of course. Now you have to agree that that is not a lightweight package but it is cheaper than most equivalent contracts out there. Without any hidden charges and all the usual bill frustrations or the contract. </p>
<p>For me there is just no reason to sign a two-year contract if I can get what I need without selling my cell-soul.</p>
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		<title>By: Weekly Roundup: Possible Trip To Denver Edition &#124; My Financial Recovery</title>
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		<dc:creator>Weekly Roundup: Possible Trip To Denver Edition &#124; My Financial Recovery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 14:03:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: The Happy Rock</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Happy Rock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 02:33:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@All - Thanks for all the great comments.  The point of this article was to help get us to think. It was to help evaluate our spending on cell phones and see if it provides enough value for the cost that you are agreeing too.

The biggest question outside of the ETF fee is whether or not you are getting value for your money.  Most people say they are, but I am not always convinced.  It is really a personal call, but seeing the numbers in a two year some often helps to clarify.  

@Ray &amp; nickel - Very true, so at a minimum you are in $175 of debt.  The funny part is though, that ETF fee often is enough of a mental roadblock that people justify spending hundreds or thousands to finish out the contract.

@Ed - Glad you are almost done.

@Dean - Pay as you go is definitely a low minute user thing.  If it is your only phone that a plan is a must.  The math for buying the new phone would be whether or not you would save more than the ETF fee on a new fancy phone.  Interesting thoughts on the no contract negotiating power.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@All &#8211; Thanks for all the great comments.  The point of this article was to help get us to think. It was to help evaluate our spending on cell phones and see if it provides enough value for the cost that you are agreeing too.</p>
<p>The biggest question outside of the ETF fee is whether or not you are getting value for your money.  Most people say they are, but I am not always convinced.  It is really a personal call, but seeing the numbers in a two year some often helps to clarify.  </p>
<p>@Ray &#038; nickel &#8211; Very true, so at a minimum you are in $175 of debt.  The funny part is though, that ETF fee often is enough of a mental roadblock that people justify spending hundreds or thousands to finish out the contract.</p>
<p>@Ed &#8211; Glad you are almost done.</p>
<p>@Dean &#8211; Pay as you go is definitely a low minute user thing.  If it is your only phone that a plan is a must.  The math for buying the new phone would be whether or not you would save more than the ETF fee on a new fancy phone.  Interesting thoughts on the no contract negotiating power.</p>
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		<title>By: Kristy @ Master Your Card</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristy @ Master Your Card</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 02:57:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm, I&#039;m not sure that I actually believe it to be debt per se, though I see your point in having it founded within the same principles. But, I also think there&#039;s more that goes into it then what you&#039;ve presented here. I got the Palm Pre and I absolutely love it! I have my calendars and email all synched up, and the the smallest touch, I know what I&#039;ve got going for the day. I was also able to synch a work dc with ALL of my DVDs listed alphabetically, which I find handy to have on hand when I&#039;m shopping for DVDs so I don&#039;t double buy. I get a lot of use out of this phone and I&#039;ve had it for less than two weeks.

I also don&#039;t mind the contract because I like Sprint. I guess I&#039;d feel differently if I didn&#039;t, but it&#039;s not that bad in my opinion. Plus, with Sprint, after a year they give you $75 off a phone and after two years you get $150 off the phone, so I think that&#039;s a pretty good deal.

Interesting post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, I&#8217;m not sure that I actually believe it to be debt per se, though I see your point in having it founded within the same principles. But, I also think there&#8217;s more that goes into it then what you&#8217;ve presented here. I got the Palm Pre and I absolutely love it! I have my calendars and email all synched up, and the the smallest touch, I know what I&#8217;ve got going for the day. I was also able to synch a work dc with ALL of my DVDs listed alphabetically, which I find handy to have on hand when I&#8217;m shopping for DVDs so I don&#8217;t double buy. I get a lot of use out of this phone and I&#8217;ve had it for less than two weeks.</p>
<p>I also don&#8217;t mind the contract because I like Sprint. I guess I&#8217;d feel differently if I didn&#8217;t, but it&#8217;s not that bad in my opinion. Plus, with Sprint, after a year they give you $75 off a phone and after two years you get $150 off the phone, so I think that&#8217;s a pretty good deal.</p>
<p>Interesting post!</p>
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		<title>By: Car Insurance Phi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Car Insurance Phi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 23:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I only had a cell phone in high school because my parents paid for it. Ever since then, I&#039;m on a minimal plan and use my phone very little.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I only had a cell phone in high school because my parents paid for it. Ever since then, I&#8217;m on a minimal plan and use my phone very little.</p>
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